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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.24 00:13:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Hammer
Does anyone have anything to add? Anyone see a glaring reason why we shouldn't?
Becuase it just encourages MORE ganking?
Given the explosion radius bonus, it's an insta-win button against T1 frigs. It's a bad idea. A bomber should be good against BIG ships, not small ones as this change makes them.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.24 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Stan D'marco
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Does anyone have anything to add? Anyone see a glaring reason why we shouldn't?
Becuase it just encourages MORE ganking?
Given the explosion radius bonus, it's an insta-win button against T1 frigs. It's a bad idea. A bomber should be good against BIG ships, not small ones as this change makes them.
Do they not let you use afterburners or mwd at DIE? =) (Old corp buddy to old corp buddy joke) When you get up to speed the cruise still won't hurt you.
And this leads us into the useless turret slots. Frig + Bomber + close range = very dead bomber. Even by the time you locked, webbed, fired and are waiting for the next volley you are dead.
You're right, except.
Except, the things are stealthed, and you need several km/s to do any good. Plus, if they basially remove the usefulness of plates (see: mass), then almost any interceptor is a ONE VOLLEY kill. And they're not helpless outside missiles, you realise... (except the Manticore)
I'm mostly agreeing with Elve Sorrow on roles here. Not necessarily full-up torpedos, but say...Lances, a sort of mini-torpedo.
Look, if you change this, I will JUMP in one and start killing. But I think it'll be overpowered.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:56:00 -
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I'm not. I'm for removing that from the manticore, and giving it a 7.5% per lvl damage bonus to the other ships 5%. So a blatent, but small, bonus over the other bombers.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Parallax Error
I still say this will make them nigh on untouchable in raiding groups. And we defiantely DO NOT need another class that is mainly aimed at anti frigate duties.
Any plans to put in a countermeasure to cloaking? Or are we going to have to have 2-3 months of these things ganking at will before something gets done?
One guess. Mutter.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 25/09/2005 23:13:20
Ahem, plated Claw too :P
But yea. Smart pilot will engage up close, and use guns too. Unless they go suicidally slow (plate), they won't survive one volley. If they ARE suicidally slow, they might take several volleys, but they probly have close range guns ("close" for the bomber = 10-20km) and you will be out of range
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.26 01:24:00 -
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I have a tracking of .5 with my Claw's guns. At close range, a tracking disruptor's NOT gonna stop me. And I only carry 1 launcher.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.29 02:13:00 -
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So a T1 destroyer can't handle some T2 intys? Shock, horror.
Bombers should be just that - useful against LARGER ships, and vulnrable to interceptors.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.09 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
I'm just curious why "stealth painters" or any other sig-reducing modules would matter at all for Bombers? They're anti-battleship frigs..
If anything that stupid sig radius bonus for cruise missiles should be removed entirely. It was a half baked way of making them "useful" by having them gank frigs instead of the things they are supposed to be good at.
Nah, that'd make SENSE.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.11 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Forlani
Ive only just started looking at getting a stealth bomber, but from what i can see the manticore is the way to go.
30 mil vs 10 mil for the others. Yea.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:43:00 -
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Remove bombers from the CO market group :/
Said this before...
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.10.16 23:41:00 -
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Well, I think torps would be overkill.
The heavy rockets proposed for cruisers, now...
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